Hyde Name Origins.

The name "HYDE" is derived from the hide, a measure of land for taxation purposes, taken to be that area of land necessary to support a peasant family. In later times it was taken to be equivalent to 120 acres .
May 2015
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Thursday, 21 May 2015

Poisoning At Godley

A Poisoning Mystery At Godley
From the book


By Thomas Middleton 

Godley Hill was the scene of a brutal poisoning case during the 1840s, which resulted in the death of a man named Brook.  This man and his sons were coal miners, and lived in a small house on Godley Hill.  Brook’s wife became intimate with a pedlar, and some time after the commencement of this intimacy Brook died suddenly.  Then the widow married the pedlar, and the two lived very unhappily for several years.   At length the pedlar went to Chief Constable Little, of Hyde, and made a confession.  He stated that Brooks’s death was the result of poison, and that he (the pedlar) had purchased arsenic from a druggist in Stalybridge; that Mrs. Brook administered the poison to her husband by mixing it with a pudding which he ate, and that a piece of the pudding which was left was afterwards thrown away, and eaten by some hens belonging to Israel Stott, who at that time kept the Olive Tree Inn – the hens all dying from the effects of poison.  Brooks body was exhumed, and an inquiry instituted.  Mr. Lancashire, the coffin maker, testified that the coffin exhumed was the one which he had buried Brooks; Israel Stott testified to the loss of his poultry; a potion of Brook’s stomach was given to Dr. Alcock, of Hyde, and another potion to Prof. Calvert, Analytical Chemist, of Manchester, and both these gentlemen testified that the stomach contained arsenic.  The evidence against the pedlar and his wife seemed condemning, but at trial both prisoners were acquitted on a point of law as to the testimony of the husband against the wife, and the wife against the husband.   The public however, were convinced of their guilt. There was a ballad composed concerning the above tragedy, which runs as follows:

Oh, give attention, both young and old,
To these few verses which I unfold,
It’s of a murder, as you know,
Which was committed six years ago.

The neighbours all do remember still
That one J. Brooks lived on Godley Hill
For many years free from pain and strife,
Till he was poisoned by his own wife.

This wretched women, you’ll understand,
Kept company with another man;
Her faithful husband she did betray,
And cruelly took his life away.

How could she harbour it in her mind
to slay a husband so good and kind?
He was respected by each degree,
And laboured hard in a colliery.

‘Twas Satan tempted his wretched wife.
With deadly poison to take his life,
Of which she gave him, good people all,
But no suspicion on her did fall.

Poor Brooks was buried, you’ll understand,
And she got wed to this other man;
Robert Thornley is his name,
And he assisted her in the same.

They had been parted a year or more,
His guilty conscience being wounded sore
By night or day he could find no rest,
So to the murder he now confessed.

Then she was taken and brought to Hyde,
The dreadful murder she has denied,
But Thornley has confessed the whole
And God above knows her guilty soul.

In Mottram Churchyard, as I have heard,
His moldered body was disinterred,
The stomach carefully was analysed,
At which result you will be surprised.

The poison found by the medical men,
As much, they say, as would poison ten;
What a wretched partner must she be
To slay the father of her family.

They’re both committed, in woe and wail,
For wilful murder to Chester Jail,
To stand their trial for the horrid deed
Which causes their wicked hearts to bleed.

Wednesday, 6 May 2015

Hedge Laying At Pole Bank

My thanks once again to David Barlow and The Friends Of Pole Bank Hall for this video showing some of The Friends having a lesson in Hedge Laying.

Wednesday, 29 April 2015

Barlova Limited


Barlova was once made and packaged in Hyde, their factory was situated on Cheapside ...... The above 'Blue Label Blend' 8oz tin would have set you back 1'10 (1 Shilling and 10 Pence) less than 10p now. 


It was a powered drink, " A Blend Of Malt, Milk & Egg. Chocolate Flavour. What I liked on the tin was this: Made & Packed In Gt. Britain By Barlova Limited, Hyde, Cheshire,  " The Dairy County ".


I can find very little information about this company from it's time in Hyde... 'Barlova' as a trademark now belongs to a company from Canada called Bedessee Imports Ltd. The Barlova trademark is filed in the 'Staple Foods Products, and Light Beverage Products categories. Their food products are Barley Flour, Barley Malt Flour, Rice Flour, Tapioca Products,Corn Flour, Wheat Flour, and Instant Coffee and Cocoa.

I have now spoke to two people that recall drinking this... and both enjoyed it.. and considered it a night-time treat. One recalled another of there drinks being a dark malt drink that was favoured by her dad.. If you know anyone who recalls this company and their products let us know please.

Barlova Items Belonging To Neil Oldham

Interesting Label About The War

These are in fantastic condition.

Over to Sharon Oldham, Neil's wife:
Thought I'd just share these with you that came into my husbands possession several weeks ago, he originally had four but gave one to his father, Though Barlova factory in Cheapside Hyde is well documented above, 
it only has pictures of the Blue powder tins and not these tablets below. Hope this may be of interest to some.

There's a jingle from 1962 by Barry Gray, Barlova (Malted Milk Drink) it can be downloaded from Amazon which is worth listening to for a giggle

Sunday, 5 October 2014


Due to health and other commitments this blog is now closed, but will still be here as an archive for Hydonians to look through when ever you choose to.

Facebook has a number of groups that might be of interest 

Hyde Community Onward

Pole Bank Hall Cheshire

Hyde Memories 

Memories Of Hyde & Newton

Thank you all who contributed to this archives, to those that have supported it and to all that have been involved. 

Tom Wigley

Monday, 29 September 2014

More from Pole Bank

Another video kindly sent in by email for used all to see and enjoy the on going work to get Pole Bank Grounds up to speck.

Pole Bank Hall Cheshire, is also a Facebook Group which some might find an interesting place page to view what is happening and when. Hopefully some might want to join in the good work.

My thanks to David Barlow for the video.

Saturday, 20 September 2014

Help Needed

Interesting request that came in through the emails...
A request for information from Gillian Johnson on behalf of her mother, over to Gillian.
My mum, now 89 years young fondly remembers visiting relatives on Market Street, Hyde round about 1935 - 40. She had lost both her own parents and thinks probably family members "took it in turn" to have her to stay sometimes.

My mum recalls visiting Beryl Wood who she thinks was a similar age her, maybe a bit older, Mums memories are full of kindnesses and playing under the table!,  there was a shop on Market Street- maybe a sweet or toy shop, that was owned by Beryls grandparents who were named Knowles and their daughter was Nellie who married Cyril Wood and they lived on Gower Road. Nellie died and Cyril married Edith. Mum recalls Cyril was a market trader, she thinks selling Biscuits.
She would love to know what happened to them as they were all so kind to her when her life living with her Uncle Harry was quite difficult. I don't know if any of your followers have any memories that would help me find more information as I have been unable to turn up anything so far.

Beryl Wood

I am quite a novice at this kind of thing, but mum has previously contacted the press and over sixties clubs in the area with no luck. Hoping you can help.

Tuesday, 9 September 2014

Demolition Of The Fire Station And Health Clinic.

When emails come in I never know what will turn up... to say I was pleased with this contact is an understatement. 

Over to Richard Thornley.  "I came across these pictures recently when I was tidying up. I worked for the construction company that built Asda in Hyde. I took these photographs while the demolition of the old Fire Station and Health Clinic was going on. Many of the materials like slates, cast iron guttering and drainpipes and even some of the interior were sold off prior to the demolition. While we were carrying out the demolition of the Fire Station, we came across a stone plaque commemorating the opening of the station. I contacted Hyde Fire Station, and we carefully removed the plaque and transported it to the new Fire Station where they installed it in reception.  I hope these picture are of some use to you."

Richard Thornley  

All I can say is well done to all involved in saving this Plaque, this important bit of Hydes History could have been lost for ever if these workers had not had the sense to save it.

The old Health Clinic
What a fine looking building this was... it would have been the envy of many a local council to have such a building in it's town centre. The next few pictures are quite sad to see... can you believe those grand pillars and top couldn't be saved... 

I asked Richard how come the stone work was demolished, and his answer was simple...  

Richard said  "They did try to sell the pillars & surrounding stonework,  but couldn't find a buyer in time.  

Unfortunately they were knocked down and then put through a stone crusher and used under the car park"

What a shame, such a sad sight.

I'd like to say thank you to Richard for these great pictures and documenting the demise of these iconic Hyde buildings, and for having the hindsight to save the Fire Station Plaque and making sure it was safely removed to the Station on Railway Street. 

Tuesday, 26 August 2014

HIGH BANK TIGERS Cycle Speedway Team

From our emails...

Hi there,  our names are Trevor Kay and Dave Oates we and others are celebrating what will be fifty years this year since we were lucky enough to win the British national junior team championship at cycle speedway in September of 1964 at Raynes park in Surrey Is it possible to have brief mention of this on the Thameside blog It all started out as just a bit of fun but in the enclosed brief history it will tell the story better

Team picture are from top left to right: P.Groome manager, Trevor Kay Capt. Ronnie Boote,Dave Newton, Bottom left to right: Brian Wheatley, Bernard Shaw and Billie Rutter.

The poem was all Dave Oates work 


Over head view from the 1970s

The left arrow points to The Talbot Pub, the right to the cycle track

Saturday, 23 August 2014

Kate Middleton and her link to Hyde

An interesting email from Michael Reed of an article in The Telegraph newspaper... about the Duchess of Cambridge, Kate Middleton's link to Hyde.

Kate is related to Beatrix Potter, who had given the Middleton family her own original hand-painted illustrations.
Kate’s great-great-great uncle was the Leeds University pro-chancellor Dr Arthur Lupton, whose brother-in-law was Lord Ashton, 1st Baron Ashton of HYDE. Baron Ashton was the first cousin of Beatrix.

“Beatrix had given the Middleton family a number of her own drawings, including four for Kate’s blood cousins, sisters Elinor and Elizabeth – who were the daughters of Dr Lupton,” says the art historian Michael Reed. “These four drawings were auctioned in 2006 and sold for £41,500.”
Michael Reed says the associations go further still. Beatrix’s father, Rupert Potter, had been taught at Manchester College by Kate’s ancestor, Dr James Martineau, who was well acquainted with Queen Victoria.
Beatrix lived in the Lake District, where Kate’s grandfather, Peter Middleton, had regularly holidayed as a youth.
It was in the Lake District in the summer of 1936 that Peter’s mother Olive Lupton was rushed to hospital with peritonitis, dying on September 27, aged only 55, leaving behind a large trust fund for her descendants.

The snow-covered peaks featured on the Middleton family crest represent the Lake District and are perhaps also a reminder of one-year old Prince George’s famous literary relative.

Thank you to Michael Reed for todays posting

Saturday, 9 August 2014

I was informed this week that one of our subscribers JOE LLOYD of Gee Cross had passed away. Joe was a local historian and railway enthusiast

Joe Lloyd

 Words By Dave Stafford
Joe was born in Wallasey son of a grocer but moved to Hyde very soon after his birth.
Lived on Stockport road a few doors away from Zion’s church and the railway lines on Peel Street
He attended Leigh Street School, then moved to Hyde Grammar, his father died when he was fifteen from an old WW1 wound.
Attended St Georges scouts and got his interest in the peak district walking and hiking he became scout leader taking his troop on numerous trips, and even to Switzerland.
Stayed involved with the scouts all his life.
Started work at Beyer Peacocks (Gorton tank) as a trainee apprentice designer then called up for national service.
Served in Northern Ireland in the military police special investigations squad rose to sergeant this is where he got his interest in research, after national service he decided Beyer Peacocks not the job for his so he started at Hyde town hall as a committee Clark 1946 stayed in local government all his career working at Stratford Stockport Dukinfield and Hyde and was part of the formation of T.M.B.C.
Married Betty 1953
In 1974 moved to Ashton T.H. as an assistant director of administration and retired in 1981
But carried on with committees charities and trust. 
He has published books on Beyer Peacocks locomotive listing every locomotive built and where they are today and enclosing all design drawing of each one.

He had a love of cars and travelling and a never ending searching for facts


Friday, 1 August 2014

Samuel Oldham 'White Gates Landlord' Information please

Recently in our emails was a request for information concerning Samuel Oldham, one time Landlord of The White Gates public house.

Over to Andrea:
    I came across your blog today and I thought you might be interested in this photo.  It is my grandfather, Samuel Oldham, standing in front of the White Gates Inn.  He was the licensee or victualler at the time.  I'm not sure when the photo was taken and this scanned version is a little difficult to see details but I have always loved this photo

My grandmother told me The White Gates was in the family for several generations until it was eventually sold.  My father lived above the pub when he was a boy.  I have just started doing a genealogical search of my father's family and that is how I came across your blog.  Maybe someone reading your blog will recognize him or his name.  my grandmother's name is Hannah Chapel.  She was born and raised in Hyde as well.  Born in 1900.  I know that both my grandparents had many relatives in Hyde.  Maybe there are still some living there.  I hope to visit there some day.  I live in Dallas, Texas.