Harry Rutherford's
Festival of Britain Mural

Thursday, 14 April 2016

St Mary's Church Choir July 1910

I came across this Photographic Postcard on Ebay last week.. not a picture I've seen before. Shows what a hundred years can do to people's attitude. Church going is not as important to a person or a community as it once was. There must be many congregations in Hyde that could not muster 50 people in the congregation, never mind attached to the choir. St Mary's is still going where others have closed and gone for good, St Stephen's on Bennett St is awaiting demolition and it's sad to see the vandalism that has occurred.. and which is still going on. 

I look at the chaps on this picture below and wonder how many were lost to the  WW I and WW II. If you have information about anyone on this image that looks back in our towns history please let me know and if you'd like I will add it here so all can see.

Sunday, 13 March 2016

Rev.H E Dowson B.A. Hyde Chapel, Gee Cross, Hyde, England. 1867-1925

Rev.H E Dowson B.A.

A video tribute by
David Barlow

David contacted me a while back with this fine tribute but at that time I was taking a health break from blogging. Thankfully David contacted me yesterday and we had a very enlightening conversation, and it was obvious I was talking to a man who was proud of the area in which he was born, schooled and lived. David has a respect for Hyde and it's history and our forefather that nurtured it's growth and dealt with people that lived, worshiped, worked, and farmed here. It is these far-sighted, good folk that made the town grow from a farming community with a knowledge of hand weaving at home into an industrial town of much respect.        

Henry Enfield Dowson was born in Geldeston, Norfolk, on November 23rd 1837, and on the maternal side desended from the Rev. Dr. Enfield, one of the tutors of the Warrington Acadany, and the author of many works. Part of Mr. Dowson's education was received at London University Collage, and he also attended classes at Heidelberg University. He took his B.A. in the first class with classical honours at University Collage, London in 1860 and then went through a three years' Theological course at Manchester New Collage. In 1863, he was appointed co-pastor at the Church of the Messiah, Birmingham, and there became acquainted with the Rt; Hon. Joseph Chamberlain, who was an active member of the congregation. From Birmingham he came to Hyde.

Mr.Dowson's commanding personality, his strenuous labours in every branch of public life, his wonderful powers oratory, and his kindness and tact, won the respect and honour of all denominations in Hyde. He devoted much time to the cause of education, took an active part in the management of three British Schools in the town as well as in the Gee Cross schools, and when the non denominational schools were taken over by the Town Council, he generously paid off the entire debts over hanging some of these schools. His educational work included many years active membership of the Hyde Public Library committee. For over 40 years he was a leader of the Liberal party, figuring prominently in political battles, and it specks much of his character when it can be said that he never lost the friendship of a single political opponent. Local sport in all its branches found in him a staunch friend and supporter, and in recognition of this, he was asked to preform the ceremony of opening the Public Baths' extension on October 18th, 1913; he also had the honour of opening the Maternity and Child Welfare Centre on May 6th, 1924. His public services were rewarded on May 10th, 1917, when he was presented with the Honorary Freedom of the borough. Mr Dowson had a true helpmate in Mrs. Dowson, and they laboured together in the interests of child life and public health in Hyde. Mrs. Dowson died in 1921, Mr Dowson, passed away on August 20th, 1925, at the age of 87 years, having been pastor at Hyde Chapel over 58 years.

In his ministry at Hyde Chapel Mr. Dowson was assisted from 1872 to 1887 by the Rev. Frederick Ashton, M.A. After voluntary resigning a portion of his salary in order that the financial position of the chapel could be improved, Mr. Dowson, on the appointment of the Rev A. R. Andreae as his co-pastor, persuaded the congregation to allow him to carry on his ministry without any stipend, and for the last 21 years of his life he faithfully discharged the duties of the position on these unusual terms. After Mr. Andreae's departure in 1910, Mr. Dowson had as successive co-pastors the Revs. E.H. Pickering, and F. Heming Vaughan.

My thanks to David for this post and for the great work he is doing. 

Tuesday, 8 March 2016

Joseph Adamsons Photographs

Photographs dated from 1948 - 50

Andrew Cox Rare Books 

browsing through Ebay I can across a fantastic collection of  97 Original photographs from Joseph Adamson  & Co Ltd, Boiler Makers Hyde.. These are superb, showing the inside of the works, the pictures measure around 8.25 by 6.5 inches, they depict all aspect of the production line, with many of the workers in shot. The company boilers of of all types and shipped worldwide 

At the time these were taken the company was part of the Adamson Alliance group who also owned the Horsehay works in what is now Telford. Some of the photographs are 'caption' of the back, and a number have been mounted on card.

There are advertised as Buy Now price of £245

A Valuable Historical Pictorial record of this lost part of British Industrial Heritage


Monday, 7 March 2016

Pte. John Joseph Hague

 Pte. John Joseph Hague

32 Mottram Road
Gee Cross

I have been contacted by one our our regular contributors 'Eric', who contacted me this week and asked if there was any chance of posting some information on the blog. After reading Eric's message and what it was about I had little choice in the matter. Thanks for the nudge Eric.

Eric has been researching a relation who was killed at Ypres in February 1916. Upon

contacting the Commonwealth War Graves Commission Eric found that his relation is listed on the Menin Gate which his son and himself are visiting very soon.
However the main thing he wanted to see mentioned on the blog, was the name of the chap next to his relation on the Gate, a Pte John Joseph Hague No. 28582 15th Bn Royal Welch Fusiliers, who Died 31st July 1917, age 38.

Husband of Alice Maud Prestwich (formerly Hague) of 32 Mottram Old Road, Gee Cross, Hyde.  Eric was hoping   I wondered if anyone could throw a light on this man's family. 


Christine contacted me by email, She went on to say that her family had lived in Hyde but left for Australia as £10 pommes over 45 years ago.
Christine is wondering if there is any school/class photo's from Leigh Street infants, Juniors, and Senior School, from the years of 1960-67...  maybe you remember Christine and have memories of her or the family.

When I read this I thought there was a good chance to find help on Hyde Community Onward (facebook page) and I'm happy to say there was plenty.


Shirley Hampson,  ????,  Margot Hauton?  Linda Walters, Jennifer Hunt, Christine Rose,  Barbara Pickford,  Katherine Fay,  Jean Calls,  Susan Heathcote,  Hillary Kinder,  Mrs Sloane (teacher) Billy Willocks,  Clive Young,  Shaun Smith  ,????,  John Chadderton,  Micheal  Curumms,  Richard Atkinson,  Michael Tighe,  Julian Howes,  Richard Shepley,  Dexter Stubbs,  ?????   Christine Council,  ?????  Janet Ryan  Susan Hanibal,  ?????  Adele Halliwell,  Nancy Grimshaw,  Jennifer Black,  Eunice Howarth,  Norma Deardon, ????  Les Cropton,  Billy Winston,  Alan Batho,  Derek Dutton,  Rob Hulme, Neil Wrigley,  Steve Daniels,  Martin Cooper,  Nigel Hague,  Gordon Neeson



All 3 of the above pictures sent in by Steve Daniels

Sunday, 27 December 2015



This is the start of our Groups Campaign is get our Town Hall flying flags in a respectful and working way.

This is an ongoing situation which as been brought to the attention of local town councils a number of times, over the last year or two, and nothing as of yet been done to rectify the disgraceful image of our Union Flag looking like it's hung in a war zone.
It has been stated there is some kind of Health & Safety issue... well then surely the powers that be have had more than enough time to sort this. Tameside advertise Hyde Town Hall on it's webpage along with other civic building under the heading of " Unforgettable Venues "

" Tameside Metropolitan Borough Council has a wonderful wealth in relation to its portfolio of public buildings that have generously been described as being iconic venues "

Seems to me the Flag Pole and the Flying The Flag in a respectful manner as been FORGOTTEN.

Protocol for Flag Flying on Tameside MBC Buildings
(As Approved by the Council in June 1974 and Amended in September 2009)
The Council last formally reviewed its flag-flying protocol in 1974 on the establishment of Tameside MBC. The protocol follows guidance issued by the Department for Culture, Media and Sports (DCMS) and its predecessor Departments. The Union Flag is flown at full-mast all year round on all civic buildings in the Borough which have a flag pole, these are:

Ashton Town Hall;
Concord Suite, Droylsden;
Denton Town Hall;
Dukinfield Town Hall;
George Lawton Hall, Mossley;
Hyde Town Hall;
Mottram Court House; and
Stalybridge Civic Hall

Protocol For Flag Flying

1. The Union Flag is to be flown at full mast on civic buildings all year (together with other flags where in accordance with the protocol, for example the Cross of St George being flown on St George’s Day).

2. Death and Funeral Commemoration

The Union Flag will be flown at half mast (from 8am until sunset) on the following occasions across all buildings unless stated otherwise:

Death of The Sovereign – from announcement of death to day of the funeral except on Proclamation Day when the flag will be hoisted to full mast from 11am until sunset on all buildings.
Death of a member or near relative of the Royal Family or the funeral of members of the Royal Family – subject to special command from Her Majesty.
The funerals of Prime Ministers and former Prime Minister – subject to special command from Her Majesty.
The funerals of Foreign Rulers - subject to special command from Her Majesty.
Death of a Lord Lieutenant or Deputy Lieutenant of Greater Manchester – day of funeral on all buildings.
Death of a serving Mayor, Mayoress, Deputy Mayor or Deputy Mayoress - day of death to day of funeral on all buildings.
Death of a serving Member of Tameside Council – day of death to day of funeral on all buildings.
Death of a former Member of Tameside Council and former Mayor or Mayoress of Tameside – day of funeral on all buildings.
Death of a former Member of a predecessor district or county council (including ex Mayor, Chairman, Mayoress or Chairman’s Lady of one of those councils) – day of funeral at the Town Hall or Council Offices of former Council (or in old county electoral division).
Death of an Honorary Freeman or Hon Alderman of the Borough of Tameside – from day of death to the day of the funeral.
Death of an Honorary Freeman of a predecessor Borough – day of funeral at the civic building in the former Borough.
Death of a serving Chief Officer of Tameside Council – day of the funeral at the Town Hall/Council Offices where they had served.
Death of a retired Chief Officer of Tameside or a predecessor council – day of the funeral at the Town Hall/Council Offices where they had served.
Death of a serving or former Member of Parliament – day of funeral at the Town Halls/Council Offices within their constituency.
Death of armed forces personnel who were residents of the Borough killed on active service – day of the announcement of death and on the day of the funeral.
Death of a serving Chief Constable of Greater Manchester, County Fire Officer or a serving Tameside Borough Police Commander – day of funeral.
On special flag flying days/civic occasions (e.g. St George’s Day) when the flying of flags coincide with days for flying flags at half-mast, the following rules are observed.

Flags are flown at full mast:

although a member of the royal family, or a near relative of the royal family, may be lying dead, unless special commands are received from the Queen to the contrary.
although it may be the day of the funeral of a foreign ruler
3. Civic Occasions

Twinning exchange visits – Union Flag and National Flag of visiting twin town to be flown (or displayed where suitable vertical poles not available) during the period of the visit at the Town Hall/Council Offices in the Tameside twin town and also at Ashton Town Hall when the visitors visit there
St George’s Day (23rd April) – the Cross of St George to be flown from 8am until sunset
Merchant Navy Day (3 September) - the Merchant Navy Flag to be flown at Ashton Town Hall
4. Other Occasions

The Union Flag may be flown at half-mast on other occasions at the discretion of the Chief Executive.


Could some of you write to the local papers about this please

Tameside Reporter
Editor: Nigel Gordon
Quest Media Centre,
Cavendish Mill Rear Entrance,
Bank Street,
Ashton-under-Lyne, OL6 7DN

Tameside Advertiser
Editor: Claire Mooney
Manchester Evening News,
Mitchell Henry House,
Hollinwood Avenue,

We need to let our local councilors know that we are disgusted that nothing is being do to rectify this shameful sight. Tell them we expect them to get behind this campaign and do everything in their power to get this fixed as soon as possible..

Godley (HYDE)

Joe Kitchen
29 Welbeck Road
SK14 5PN
Tel: 366 55781

Jim Fitzpatrick
1 Douglas Street
SK14 1QF
Tel: 368 8813

Betty Affleck
11 Nicholson Road
SK14 4QH
Tel: 366 6372

Newton (HYDE)

Peter Robinson
64 Ash Tree Road
SK14 4EP
Tel: 366 1755

Philip Fitzpatrick
2 Lovell Drive
SK14 4DP
Tel: 368 5006

Helen Bowden
120 Clarendon Road
SK14 2LJ
Tel: 285 1225

Werneth (Hyde)

Raja Miah
26 Syddall Street
SK14 1LB
Tel: 07889 838345

Andy Kinsey
50 Mill Lane
SK14 2DL
Tel: 07932 337961

John Bell
20 Arnold Road
SK14 5LH
Tel: 366 9874


Unfortunately through health issues I am unable to take this all on myself, I think there's enough folk here on the group who feel the same way as I do and if we all did our little bit we would have more of a chance at getting this situation sorted out before the towns is disgraced. Can you imagine if there's a national disaster or god forbid a Royal dies and we have not got a flag flying half mast to show our towns respects. .


Saturday, 12 December 2015


The Methodist New Connexion Chapel was situated on Muslin Street (now known as Talbot Road) in Newton. It was originally known as the Muslin Street Methodist. The original chapel was built in 1815, but due to disrepair it was demolished and the building in the photo was built and opened in 1884. In 1907 the church joined with the United Methodist Free Church and formed the United Methodist Church.
Above picture and information by Paul Taylor

Not seen the above picture before, but it turned up on Ebay last week. if you know anything about the picture let me know.
Anyone with pictures or information on the church, please leave a comment.

Friday, 4 December 2015

Redferns Rubber Welfare Association & Family Picture.

Paul Stone contacted me a while back about an older post we featured on Redferns, and he wondered if we had more information to share. Paul's interest is the Redfern family history, James Arthur Redfern married (21/08/21) his Great Grand Aunt, Gladys Branson (4/7/1889 - 22/11/1951).Paul is seeking any information on the Redferns locally, and wondered if there are an relatives still living in Hyde. 

Paul sent in this picture of Redfern's Welfare AssociationDated 1919
James Arthur Redfern is Top Right  

In 1918
£34,130 Was Raised By Redferns 'Silver Bullet' League
For War Savings Certificates And Bonds 

From the left: Alice Lomas (Paul's Great. Grandmother) - Gladys Marion Branson ( Pauls Grand Aunt) -
Arthur J Redfern - Gladys Branson (Arthur's Wife, whose Paul's Great Grand Aunt) Phyllis Audrey Branson, nee Stone (Paul's Paternal Grand mother.

Paul Believes James Arthur is in the Redfern's Welfare Association

Saturday, 21 November 2015

Holy Trinity Class Pictures 1960 - 1965


Alan Hackney
Alan sent this post in by email, he went on to say..........

I have recently sorted out some old photo's  and thought these would be of interest to a few people.






Alan has tried to name the 1965 group, but struggled, can anyone help

Back Row

Julie Ovens - ??? ??? - ??? ??? - Jill Mellor - ??? ??? - Sheila Ashworth ( Of Ashworths  Leather Goods factory, that was behind the Queen Adelaide in Gee Cross).

Boys Row
Andrew Cheetham - David Howard - Alan Hackney - Shaun McEwan - Terry Smith - Peter Oldham.
2rd Row From Front

Karen Watchem - Janet ??? - ??? ??? - Susan Lascowicz? - ??? ??? - Christine Gradwell? - Gaynor Waterhouse.
Front Row

Gillian Cheal (Cheal's Garage Gee Cross which is now Weir's Garage) - Christine Ovens - ??? ???.
My thanks to Alan for sending this in, if you would like to do a post one week please feel free to send something by email to hydonian@gmail.com