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Saturday, 21 November 2015

Holy Trinity Class Pictures 1960 - 1965


Alan Hackney

Alan sent this post in by email, he went on to say..........

I have recently sorted out some old photo's  and thought these would be of interest to a few people.






Alan has tried to name the 1965 group, but struggled, can anyone help

Back Row

Julie Ovens - ??? ??? - ??? ??? - Jill Mellor - ??? ??? - Sheila Ashworth ( Of Ashworths  Leather Goods factory, that was behind the Queen Adelaide in Gee Cross).

Boys Row
Andrew Cheetham - David Howard - Alan Hackney - Shaun McEwan - Terry Smith - Peter Oldham.

2rd Row From Front

Karen Watchem - Janet ??? - ??? ??? - Susan Lascowicz? - ??? ??? - Christine Gradwell? - Gaynor Waterhouse.

Front Row

Gillian Cheal (Cheal's Garage Gee Cross which is now Weir's Garage) - Christine Ovens - ??? ???.

My thanks to Alan for sending this in, if you would like to do a post one week please feel free to send something by email to hydonian@gmail.com 


Thursday, 12 November 2015

WWI Cheshire Regiment Soldiers, & Street Scene from Hyde.

I've once again been sent pictures from Elaine Hallfarm, if you recall it was Elaine who shared a picture of John Street, Hyde where part of the property had collapsed. Through the information that turned up on the face-book group page, Elaine as been able to add that to the back of the picture for future reference.

WW1 Soldier from the Cheshire Regiment with women

WW1 Injured Soldiers in unknown Hospital, One is possibly Elaine's Uncle Arthur 

WW1 Cheshire Regiment Soldier, wear a Mourning Button
DuringWW1 it was permissible in the British army to wear a small square or black crepe or silk wrapped around the second button on the tunic as a sign of personal mourning. Officers wore black armbands.

Procession Walk in Hyde

What a cracking picture this is
Where it is unknown but it is from Hyde
Anyone know the church banner
I will be very pleased if this can be pinpointed and see what it's like today.

These pictures are all shared by Elaine in the memory of her Aunty May

These were Aunty May's pictures, and are now passed on to family members. Elaine says there are more pictures to follow, and that the family sometimes can work out who they are looking at, but more often there are no clues. She hope we enjoy looking at them and better still find something of interest in them.

Wednesday, 11 November 2015

1147930 Sgt Horace Wigley


For this weeks update I've chosen an older post from our archives, one which was told me in full by my 2rd cousin once removed, a man I had never met yet I had lived very close to his family home.  
   I make no apologise in reshowing this post from David Hamilton and what he told me solved a bit of my own family history jigsaw. Not just that but the story that unfolded was very moving, but as carried on being so as I got to know David and hear all about his family              I will now hand the post over to David to tell the story of his Uncle Horace

Your Grandfather, Tom, was the brother of my grandfather, Harry, which makes us 2nd cousins. I noticed that you have a photo of the ICI memorial tablet which bears the names of several employees who lost their lives during WW11, including Horace Wigley, and you say that he may have been related to your father.  Horace and your father, Harold, were in fact cousins, making you and Horace 1st cousins once removed, and Horace my uncle.


I too heard the story about Horace when I was a child, but there wasn't much detail, also looking back it must have still been too painful for the family to talk about. Later on, I gained a keen interest in the RAF generally, and Bomber Command in particular, so it made perfect sense for me to find out more about Horace and his time in the RAF.

1147930 Sgt Horace Wigley Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve

Horace was born on 28th May 1921, the third child of Harry and Sarah Wigley. Their other children were Tom, Albert, Ivy, Hilda, and Brian. The family lived in Tanner Street, Hyde, before moving to St Mary’s Road in 1935.

Horace attended Greenfield Street School, and was a bright pupil. Due partly to the limited educational opportunities at the time, and also the need to get a job, Horace left school at the age of 14 to work for Mitchell, the coal merchant, putting coal into sacks and chopping firewood.
After this, he started work at I.C.I. in Newton as a calender feeder in a rubber processing plant.

Horace was an enthusiastic sportsman and, despite the heavy work and his slim 5 foot 6 inch frame, he still found the energy to pursue his passion for cricket, at which he was exceptionally talented. He was a member of the Talbot Road Methodist Church Cricket Club, and was also a keen harmonica player. He and other members of the team called themselves “The Harmonica Rogues” and performed in various church halls in the local area.


Horace aged 17 


Horace aged 18

On 15th March 1941, 19-year-old Horace signed up for the RAF at No.3 Reception Centre in Manchester, and was placed on reserve, to be recalled on 1st May 1941 and posted to No.4 Reception Centre at Bridgenorth for basic training. His next posting was to No. 6 School of Technical Training where he qualified as an engine fitter on 29th December 1941. He was then sent to RAF Ayr, a Fighter Command station, where he was later recommended for training as a Flight Engineer and sent to No. 4 School of Technical Training. He obtained his brevet on 29th July 1942 and was promoted to Sergeant. Flight Training began at No. 1651 Heavy Conversion Unit at Waterbeach, Cambridgeshire, where he teamed up with F/Sgt W.J. Hannah and his crew fresh from a Bomber Command Operational Training unit. After they converted onto the Short Stirling four-engined bomber, they were posted to 15 Squadron at Bourn, Cambridgeshire on 23rd September 1942.

Three days later, on 26th September 9 1942, Horace married his childhood sweetheart, Monica Foley, who also lived in St Mary’s Road.


 Horace and Monica at St. Mary’s Road 


Horace and Monica’s wedding day                              

Horace’s first operation with 15 Squadron was around the French coast, “gardening” (dropping sea mines) in the Gironde estuary on the night of 27th October 1942 in Stirling Mk.1 R9201 coded LS-U. The operation was both successful and uneventful.

His second, fateful, gardening operation was on 6th November 1942 with the same crew and aircraft. That evening, LS-U was the last of three Stirlings detailed for operations over French coastal waters to take off from Bourn, lifting its wheels for the last time at 6pm. 
At 9.45pm local time, still on its outward journey over France, the Stirling was hit by flak whilst flying at low level. According to locals, the aircraft appeared to be attempting a crash landing on the marshes near St Andre-des Eaux, making a gradual descent until it hit a row of trees and cartwheeled into the ground, disintegrating but not catching fire. The crew of eight, four English and four New Zealanders, was killed instantly.
Because the aircraft crashed at a shallow angle, most of the wreckage was left on the surface of the soft ground and was easily recovered, but the four Bristol Hercules XI engines carried on across the marsh, the furthest one was found 500 metres from the main impact point.


Stirling R9201 crashed in the centre foreground of this photograph.


A piece of wreckage from Stirling R9201.

The airmen were gathered for burial by local people, and they were laid to rest together at Escoublac-La Baule War Cemetery on 9th November 1942, Father Robin Moyon conducting the funeral.


Horace’s grave taken in 1948


Horace’s grave in 2000

Horace lies in grave 17, Row D, Plot 2.

The inscription on his headstone reads:

“A silent thought
brings many a tear
for one we lost
and loved so dear”

Horace and Monica had been married for just 41 days.

Having served in the RAF for 1 year and 237 days and paying the supreme sacrifice, Horace was awarded the War Medal 1939-45, Aircrew Europe Star, and the 1939-45 Star.


Horace’s Medals: 
(L-R) War Medal 1939-45, Air Crew Europe Star, 1939-45 Star

The crew of Stirling R9201 LS-U.

NZ412683            F/Sgt W.J. Hannah            Pilot                        Age 24
NZ411369            F/Sgt K.D. Chapman          Pilot                        Age 24
1147930               Sgt H. Wigley                   Flight Engineer        Age 21
1177718              Sgt J.C. Brookes                Observer                 Age 27
1255407              F/Sgt R.H. Drew                Air Bomber              Age 31
NZ411761            Sgt A.W. Jarvis        Wireless Op/Air Gunner     Age 22
NZ41140              Sgt J.M. Burgess                Air Gunner              Age 31
1318591              Sgt S.J Butcher                  Air Gunner              Age 20


Crew graves (R-L): Jarvis, Wigley, Chapman, Hannah, Brookes, Butcher, Burges, Drew.


Escoublac-La-Baule War Cemetery

Thank you David


I was contacted on the 27th July by a Sheila McKellar, from Winnipeg, Canada.  who wrote the following.

   "I just read your blog from 2011 in which you posted the story of Sgt. Wigley, provided by his nephew, David Hamilton.  My mother was engaged to marry one of the other 15 Squadron members, Sgt. Jarvis.  My mom passed away a few months ago, and I have a photo that belonged to her of the crew.  I thought David might like a copy of it.  Would it be possible for you to put me in touch with him, or forward my email address to him so he can contact me?"

Alas I had to inform Sheila that David had passed away suddenly, David would have been so pleased to have had contact with others touched by the events told above.
The next email from Shelia contained her condolences, and indeed the said picture and another, and explained on checking the names on the pictures alas Horace was not amongst them.

Sheila wrote " When I looked at the photos again, I was disappointed to see that Sgt. Wigley is not among those pictured.  However, I hope you can still use one or both of the photos on your blog.  "These are the brave men who perished with Sgt. Wigley and are buried alongside him in France."  

 Left to right, Joe Brookes, James Burgess, Wilf Hannah, Alf Jarvis, Mickey Drew.

 Left to right, Joe Brookes, James Burgess, Wilf Hannah, Alf Jarvis, Mickey Drew.

They are, in order (coincidentally, in both images!) 

Thank you Tom for giving me the opportunity to share this with the world, and preserve their memory.  I'm hoping relatives or descendants will find them on your blog someday.

Best regards from Canada,

Thank you for your reply, Tom. I am so pleased you are honouring these brave men in this way, and have given me the opportunity to be a part of it! You are also continuing your second cousin's legacy and I am sure he would be very proud. I will look forward to your new post later this year and shall appreciate you letting me know when it is ready.

It is a honour for me to to show this again, and with the update of information and picture that Sheila as so kindly shared. I know how thrilled David would have been knowing the story was seen by someone else who was touched by the sad events of 6th November 1942.

So today  "at the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month" I will be thinking of all these brave lads and many many more.

Dedicated to the memory of
David Hamilton


Thursday, 22 October 2015

Tommy Sowter's loaf - A Wartime tale of Newton

This was a post from 2013, I'm using it again today as it came up in conversation today when I was asked if I'd ever found out anymore about it.  I hadn't which is a shame but by showing it again today it might jog a memory of two.. hope so!

We just had to post this great local story from Newton in the war years, sent in by Jacqueline and Colin Ridgway
"Reading Roger V Chapman’s interesting memories of his boyhood in Hyde during WW2 reminded us of an aftermath of a Bombing Raid in Newton.   The large ICI works in Talbot Road which produced leather-cloth known as “Rexine” in peacetime, was switched to Munitions during WW2.   As a result it became a target for the Luftwaffe, and Bombers regularly flew over Hyde on raids.   They would locate the Reservoir near the Werneth Pub in Gee Cross then aim for the Reservoir at Godley which put them on the Flight Path to the ICI Works.

The factory walls were heavily camouflaged as was the roof and must have been difficult for the German aircrews to spot from the air, although several “drops” of incendiary bombs had fallen on the works and hit houses opposite the Clarence Hotel on Talbot Road.

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On one such raid a German bomber was hit by a Hurricane plane, possibly from RAF Calveley, and flew in over Newton very low and on fire.   It came down in the fields behind St. Mary’s Church and the crew luckily escaped.   My Husband Colin Ridgway and his friends (all very young), were playing football nearby and saw the Germans run into the wood near Saville’s Farm.

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The boys ran home to get their toy guns in order to capture the airmen and on the way to the wood they were met by a friend Tommy Sowter who had been queuing at the bread shop for his Mother’s ration and had a loaf of bread in a bag, he joined them and they went into the wood only to be confronted by the Germans!  Toy guns not being a  Sitha, bravery soon evaporated and the boys fled, but not before a German had pinched Tommy’s loaf off him.

Er'  Sithe, wurs ma bleedin loaf

In the flight the boys ran into Constable Jackson and the Newton “Dads Army” who were on their way to search for the downed Airmen.   The boys told them where the Germans were and ran back home and safety.   The airmen were soon apprehended and marched off down Talbot Road.   A large crowd of Mothers had assembled near the Post office and as the column passed by much hissing and cat calling took place; by the women against the Germans as their husbands were away fighting in the war.   However, one mother was more concerned in giving her errant son Tommy a “good hiding” for letting the Germans steal their loaf.   Nothing for Tea tonight!!

Many Thanks for sending this in to us, Jacqueline and Colin !
It's always great hearing such stories. :)